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A Visit to Jamestown Settlement (8 Places in Virginia)

Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:49 PM EST
history, virginia, newsvine-photographers, jamestown, colonists
By etva

1) Virginia students spend a large segment of time studying Jamestown in the 4th grade. Most classes take a field trip to the recreated settlement. © 2011 by etva

2) This is a full sized recreation of the Susan Constant, which was 82' in length, with a 95' mainmast. She's believed to have carried 71 of the 104 colonists that left England. © 2011 by etva

3) Historians generally agree, that without John Smith and his leadership, the settlers would not have survived the first two years. © 2011 by etva

4) The colonists believed that the primary danger to Jamestown would come from other Europeans via the James River. Thus, the town gate (and a cannon) faced the harbor. © 2011 by etva

5) Jamestown buildings were mostly wattle-and-daub structures with thatched roofs. © 2011 by etva

6) This cannon sits inside the gates of Jamestown, facing the harbor. An original saker cannon is on display at the Museum, as well as cannonballs, some weighing 18 pounds. © 2011 by etva

7) Near the Jamestown settlement is this recreation of a Powhatan Native American village. Historical reenactors demonstrate how natural resources were used for food, clothing, shelter, defense and travel. © 2011 by etva

8) This canoe was carved from a tree trunk, and scraped out using oyster shells. Visitors are offered the opportunity to assist. © 2011 by etva

9) Historical reenactors demonstrate Powhatan tanning methods for deer and other animal skins. © 2011 by etva

10) Colonial tools were kept in a storehouse. © 2011 by etva

11) Jamestown gold, otherwise known as tobacco. © 2011 by etva

12) This is a partial outline of the original fort. As noted by Dubbya in the comment section of this article, the site of the actual fort is at a different location than the recreated village. © 2011 by etva

13) Building frame at the site of the original Jamestown Fort. © 2011 by etva

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This article is part of a series entitled "8 Places in Virginia." It seemed appropriate to begin with Jamestown.

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Jamestown is recognized as the first permanent English settlement in America. The travel and supplies for the trip were funded by the Virginia Company of London, which received a charter from King James I, to establish settlements on the east coast of North America.


 

In May 1607, Captain Christopher Newport arrived with an estimated 100 colonists, in what is now the Tidewater Region of Virginia, with three ships, the Discovery, Godspeed, and the Susan Constant.

The site of the settlement at the mouth of the James River, was chosen because the water was deep enough for the ships to dock, and was easily defended by land and sea. There also appeared to be plenty of fresh water, however, it was soon discovered that the area was swampy and full of mosquitoes.

In the first year following the arrival of the colonists, a seven man governing council was established, but things did not go well. Many of the settlers were “gentlemen” seeking gold and financial opportunities, but they had little experience with the hard work necessary for survival. There was a severe shortage of food and fresh water, and many fell ill and died during the first winter.

In January 1608, the first supply ship arrived just in time to save the remaining 40 settlers. Approximately 100 new colonists also took up residence within the fort.

Also in that year, John Smith became Governor of the Council and implemented a policy requiring everyone to participate in the work to grow food, else they did not eat. He also began trade with the local Powhatan Indians after being captured and according to legend, nearly executed.

There is some debate about the validity of his near execution and the timely intervention by the Algonquian princess, but it was definitely at this time, that Smith befriended Pocahontas, daughter of Chief Powhatan.

Unfortunately, the relationship between the colonists and the Native Americans deteriorated after John Smith was forced to return to England due to injury.

The winter of 1609 was known as “The Starving Time.” The colonists did not have enough food stores and feared attack if they left the fort to hunt. Only 60 of more than 200 settlers survived until spring, when the next supply ship arrived with food and new settlers.

Over the next five years, the colonists faced hardships and learned to adapt to their environment. Their relationship with the Powhatans had ups and downs, but knowledge was shared, and the colonists learned which crops were successful in the area.

In 1614, Pocahontas married John Rolfe, and helped establish an 8-year period of peaceful coexistence between the two groups. It was also at this time, that the colonists began growing tobacco as a cash crop, which was sent back to England for sale and trade.

In 1619, the first Africans arrived in Jamestown, but there is much heated debate about their status.

Out of a violent storm appears a Dutch ship. The ship's cargo hold is empty except for twenty or so Africans whom the captain and his crew have recently robbed from a Spanish ship. The captain exchanges the Africans for food, then sets sail.

It's not clear if the Africans are considered slaves or indentured servants. (An indentured servant would be required to work a set amount of time, then granted freedom.) Records of 1623 and 1624 list them as servants, and indeed later records show increasing numbers of free blacks, some of whom were assigned land. On the other hand, records from gatherings do not indicate the marital status of the Africans (Mr., Miss, etc.) and, unlike white servants, no year is associated with the names -- information vital in determining the end of a servant's term of bondage. Most likely some Africans were slaves and some were servants. At any rate, the status of people in bondage was very confusing, even to those who were living at the time.

Whatever the status of these first Africans to arrive at Jamestown, it is clear that by 1640, at least one African had been declared a slave. This African was ordered by the court "to serve his said master or his assigns for the time of his natural life here or elsewhere." (link)

By 1620, Jamestown was considered secure and prosperous, and the first “Bride Ship” arrived, having been paid for with profits from tobacco sales.

Virginia became a crown colony in 1624, with Jamestown as its Capital until 1698, when it was moved to Williamsburg, after a major fire destroyed the State House.

Today a recreated Jamestown is open to the public, and includes a neighboring Powhatan village and a museum of original artifacts. The original site of Jamestown has been located, and is still being explored by archeologists, but tourists are welcomed to visit and take pictures from a distance.

Resources and References for More Information

Jamestown Settlement

History of Jamestown

Original Settlers & Designations

Pocahontas

Jamestown Mini Q

Jamestown Educational Tours

Powhatan Indian Village

Susan Constant

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etva

Welcome to Virginia. CoH please.

  • 9 votes
#1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:50 PM EST
KYPIAKOC

Very nice! What a historic place! Thanks for sharing:)

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:04 PM EST
etva

Thanks Kypiakoc! It's a wonderful place to visit, with lots of interactive and hands-on activities. I highly recommend it if you're ever in the area.

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:19 PM EST
KYPIAKOC

Maybe one of these days:)

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:47 AM EST
Nikita-2054298

Great!! I would love to visit this place some day. Facsinating!

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:44 AM EST
Nikita-2054298

Did anyone see the movie Pocahontas? I think Colin Farell was in it. Pretty slow movie, but I loved it. Also not sure how factual it was, but it was epic. And beautifully shot.

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:45 AM EST
A. Macarthur

Hi etva,

A number of years ago, during my second visit to Jamestown Settlement, while taking photos with my camera on a tripod, I was approached by two interpreters and told to "stop" taking pictures. I had press credentials at that time because I was a newspaper editor ... showed the credentials and that prompted them to call the park manager.

They escorted me to the office where I was given the "reasons" for the cease and desist order. The manager was afraid that the photos would be published with incorrect information ... "i.e." that I'd misidentify the ships as the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria (Coulmbus' ships). I assured her that I knew the difference and asked why she otherwise did not want the free publicity the published images would surely provide.

No response ... I left; no comment as to whether or not any of the photos were subsequently published ...

I'll be searching my database to see if I still have them.

If I do, maybe I'll post an article ... and your article is a well-done photo essay.

  • 7 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:11 AM EST
etva

Thanks Nikita. I haven't seen the movie Pocahontas, so I don't know what information they presented. The story was once told that John Smith was captured and about to be executed when Pocahontas ran forward to protect him, and convinced her father to release him. Currently, however, there is some question as to whether or not the execution was a mock ceremony or real. There is no doubt however, that Pocahontas did play a major role in connecting the colonists and the Powhatans.

A. Mac, I would love to see your photos and compare how the Jamestown settlement has changed. I believe the Powhatan village and ships were added in the early 1990s, and the focus has changed from an archeological site, to a tourist location, so they certainly welcome photographers now.

  • 4 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:25 AM EST
Nikita-2054298

It's definately worth renting. Just plan on it being a tad slow in parts. The actress who plays Pocahontis is absolutely brilliant..and beautiful. Colin does a good job as well. If you rent it, let me know what you think.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:32 AM EST
No One particular

When I visited in the early 80s, it was, like you said, more of an archeaological site. I was surprised when I took my own kids, at just how much more 'touristy' it is...but if that brings people to learn the history, then it is a good thing. =)

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:32 AM EST
etva

Thanks Nikita -- I'll look for it.

No One Particular: I think the "change" had much to do with the need to raise funds to continue the archeological research:)

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:41 AM EST
No One particular

Ah! That makes a lot of sense!! Thank you!

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:43 AM EST
Dubbya R

There's actually two 'Jamestown' sites etva, the re-creation you visited is operated by the state of Virginia, (Jamestown-Yorktown Foundation).

There is also Historic Jamestowne , where the actual site of the original fort is located, [just down the road], and that one is part of the National Park System and operated-excavated jointly along with the APVA (association for the preservation of virginia antiquities). The two sites operate independently of each other, which can be confusing to visitors sometimes.

At the archeological site I've once been asked to not take photographs inside a tented area of the dig, but nowhere else, and even that was several years ago, so may not apply any longer.

Just an interesting side...if you look on the google map for the archeological site, on the satellite view you can clearly see the outline of what's left of the original fort along the riverbank.

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:26 AM EST
etva

Yes, I should have mentioned that. I've been to both sites, but we were allowed to take photographs at the dig, not that there was anything overly photographic - LOL. It might have been because of the anniversary celebration during that particular year. I couldn't get a good photo of the entire area, but I'll try to post one more photo of the building frame that outlines the edge of the fort. When I first published, I was having trouble getting everything to load and had to delete some of the pictures.

I didn't know that the two sites were funded separately. Thanks for the information.

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:17 AM EST
etva

Grrrr. Photos still aren't showing up, but I'll give them a bit of time.

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:28 AM EST
Dubbya R

You've obviously been there more recently than I, the framing and fencing in #'s 12 and 13 weren't up when I last visited. Thanks for adding the shots, very descriptive.

You're right, the archaeological site isn't very photogenic, and there was work going on inside of a large tent when I was last there. I don't recall the reason they requested no photos, but it applied only to when we were in the tent itself, and is probably a combination of camera flashes causing issues for archaeologists working in a semi-dark space...and also [perhaps] that they were working on a new find in the excavation that they weren't ready to announce.

Normally both sites love, and are very accommodating to [non-commercial] photography.

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:05 PM EST
etva

These photos were taken a few years ago during the 400th anniversary celebration, when everything was all spiffied up. I'll be going back again this spring and will try to get some pictures of the overall site.

  • 3 votes
#1.16 - Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:25 PM EST
Dubbya R

I'm a lazy bugger...I've lived downriver for decades, but I don't get up there without visitors to entertain or an assignment that requires it...it's the 'backyard' syndrome.

Your photos all came up right away for me btw. But if you have trouble posting them again, try resizing downward. I've found photos to post pretty well, and more quickly, at 1MB or less, [depending on your connection speed]. Newsvine off and on, seems to have trouble with photos for both posting and viewing...images consume server space, I guess is part of the issue.

I look forward to your next installment, good work.

  • 6 votes
#1.17 - Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:33 PM EST
etva

LOL - I'm familiar with the backyard syndrome. WDC is mine, and I rarely go there.

  • 3 votes
#1.18 - Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:50 PM EST
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MoonCrow

Hey "Old Dominion" sist'a ... great job!

  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:18 PM EST
etva

Thanks MoonCrow! I haven't actually been there in a few years, but I'll be going again in May with my youngest son. It will be interesting to see the changes, and hopefully get some better pictures of the ships.

  • 7 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:21 PM EST
MoonCrow

I just love the way they planted. It's a great demo of a stalk of corn with a tomato or beans growing around it ... using it as a stake. And according to tradition, they placed a fish in the hole when they planted the seeds. Soooo cool.

  • 10 votes
#2.2 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:27 PM EST
etva

I agree. I always wish that I could find a good book on the Native American farming traditions.

Actually, much of their knowledge was implemented at Mount Vernon. George Washington was quite an innovative farmer for his time. I'm planning on a visit to Mount Vernon as one of my 8 places in VA.

  • 6 votes
#2.3 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:33 PM EST
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Mrs D-1475814

I love history etva and you did a wonderful job with your article and pictures. Thank you so much! I so enjoyed reading your article. :)

  • 9 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:20 PM EST
etva

Thanks Mrs. D. It's a fascinating period of history, and few people realize how close the Jamestown settlers came to disappearing, like the Roanoke Colony did.

  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:23 PM EST
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David S Jones

Super Cool. Thanks so much for sharing; I love colonial history.

  • 8 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:21 PM EST
etva

Thanks David. My next visit will be to Colonial Williamsburg, but I don't know as many details off the top of my head, so I need to do a bit of research.

  • 7 votes
#4.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:25 PM EST
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Desertzonie

It's always nice to see these places I learned about in school so long ago. The ship is cool -- are there others? Thanks etva.

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:13 PM EST
etva

There are replicas of all three ships, though they aren't always in port at the same time. I have other pictures, but I couldn't get all the photos to load, even in right alignment, so I had to delete some - LOL. If you go to the link above for the Susan Constant, you'll also find pictures of the Godspeed and Discovery. Thanks for stopping by, DZ.

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:37 PM EST
Desertzonie

I just couldn't see myself crossing the Atlantic in anything that small -- Amazing.

  • 5 votes
#5.2 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:02 PM EST
etva

Even more amazing to me is the number of people that were on the ships. When 50 visitors went on the deck, they were standing side to side, with no additional room. The colonists must have been packed like sardines on those ships. I'd have gone daft just from the tight quarters.

  • 3 votes
#5.3 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:13 PM EST
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Fletch-495299

I haven't been there in years, thanks for posting the photos.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:26 PM EST
etva

Thanks for stopping by Fletch!

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:38 PM EST
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No One particular

Super pics! I have a photo of my kids in that same canoe you have in photo 8. =)

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:34 PM EST
etva

They were working on a new canoe the last time we were there, and all the kids got to scoop out some wood with the oyster shells. They thought it was great fun, and they all wanted to come back and make their own. I'm guessing some of the parents were too happy about that - LOL.

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:41 PM EST
No One particular

That is really cool! My kids love to go to Jamestown, they especially love when they get to watch the guns being fired...too cool for boys. =)

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:45 PM EST
etva

The last time I was there, the reenactors firing the guns were women. The boys were appalled, but the girls were grinning from ear to ear.

They also really liked the sailor who taught them how to tie knots. They practised on the drive home, and by the time they finished, there were a few I couldn't undo - LOL.

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:52 PM EST
No One particular

The boys were appalled, but the girls were grinning from ear to ear.

Too awesome!

  • 3 votes
#7.4 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:58 PM EST
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Kavika

etva, excellent article. I was there a couple of years ago and had a great adventure.

etva, you mentioned in finding a good book about Indian Farming...Here are three that might be of interest.

Eduring Seeds by Nabhan

Indian Agriculture in America by Hurt

My favorite....Wild Rice and the Ojibwe People. As a child I used to help my Nokomis (grandmother) harvest wild rice.

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:21 PM EST
etva

Thank you Kavika. I will definitely look for them. As MoonCrow mentioned, they will often give demonstrations of Native American farming techniques at Jamestown. I'm no expert, but they seem to do a very good job with it, and the Native American knowledge is one of the primary reasons the colonists survived.

Thanks for stopping by.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:29 PM EST
Kavika

Your welcome. When I was a kid, wild rice was for ''food on the table'' today it's a dish for the more up scale resturants. How times change.

I know that two of them are on Amazon for sure.

  • 4 votes
#8.2 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:35 PM EST
etva

I just checked on Amazon - all three are there, but I'm going to first check in my local bookstore. I'd rather give them the support - LOL:)

  • 3 votes
#8.3 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:37 PM EST
Kavika

Good for you...hope you find them of interest.

  • 4 votes
#8.4 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:48 PM EST
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Al-316

I remember being "forced" to visit Jamestown when I was about 14. At that age I don't really remember caring about anything except girls. There were no girls at Jamestown so I was bored. There was a guide or two to show us around, but no historical reenactors, That would have been something that got my attention. There was nothing to do except look around. And I did. But there were no girls.

Your pictures are terrffic. Your story was great. Thank you for doing this for us. And in case you are wondering, I eventually did find a (perfect) girl in Alexandria, Virgina, and we have been happily married for almost 34 years.

  • 6 votes
Reply#9 - Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:56 PM EST
Kavika

Boozhoo Al, I would think that a man of culture and intelligence would be thinking of something other then ''girls'' at that age. Splitting the atom of something along those lines...lol

Sorry etva, I know that was off topic, but I could not resist. Al is a friend.

  • 5 votes
#9.1 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:12 AM EST
Al-316

Aanii Kavika, you are right my friend. As it turned out I should have been looking for atoms at Jamestown. Just out of curiosity, how many atoms did you split when you were 14?

Getting back to Etva's presentation, did you notice photograph #9? The re-enactors demonstrate the tanning of hides. I think that alone is worth a return trip to Jamestown.

I am sorry, Etva, if we have embarrassed you or detracted from your presentation.

Baamaapii niiji Al

  • 5 votes
#9.2 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:41 AM EST
Kavika

Just one Al, and I used a big rock...lol

Yes, I did see #9, very interesting as was the whole article. Thanks again etva.

  • 5 votes
#9.3 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:44 AM EST
etva

ROTFL! Al, you'll be happy to know that Jamestown now has girls - lots of them, usually interns from the universities, but mind your manners, because they also have the guns - LOL. I'm glad you eventually found your girl, and since you found her in Virginia, I'm sure she must be a wonderful person:)

They do indeed demonstrate the tanning of hides. In fact, on certain days, the kids even get to help, though most were somewhat appalled, when they discovered that the sewing was done with deer gut - LOL.

By the way, I'm not so strict about bits of chit chat in my articles. I generally post "not news" and some of the best discussions have been completely off-topic, so no worries.

  • 7 votes
#9.4 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:56 AM EST
Al-316

Thank you, etva, for your understanding. We will try to be more respectful. Isn't that right Kavika?

  • 6 votes
#9.5 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:15 PM EST
Kavika

of course we will....Al, please be more respectful.

  • 5 votes
#9.6 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:01 PM EST
etva

LOL:)

  • 4 votes
#9.7 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:06 PM EST
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Anathema6205

How can you forget Silent Hill in Toluca County????

:O

Everyone needs to visit that place!

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:16 AM EST
Kavika

Anathema what is Silent Hill?

  • 4 votes
#10.1 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:29 AM EST
Anathema6205

:O

"There was a hole here. It's gone now."

...No?

Only the best series EVAR.

If you ever want to feel so terrified you want to crawl into the fetal position and cry, you go ahead and pick up Silent Hill.

Any of them.

:D Works of pure macabre genius.

And all supposedly situated in Toluca County.

  • 4 votes
#10.2 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:47 AM EST
etva

I'm sorry, Anathema, but Toluca County is in West Virginia, rather than Virginia, so I won't be doing an article on that one, but thanks for stopping by.

  • 3 votes
#10.3 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:01 AM EST
Anathema6205

Ah my mistake. ^^

Sorry.

  • 5 votes
#10.4 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:11 PM EST
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Dubbya R

Great job etva.

The first third of the 'historic triangle'!

  • 6 votes
Reply#12 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:13 AM EST
etva

Thanks Dubbya. I'm going to try to do Williamsburg next, but I have to confess, I've never actually been to Yorktown, so I have no pictures. Perhaps that will be something to accomplish this spring. Thanks for stopping by.

  • 5 votes
#12.1 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:18 AM EST
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HollyKl

Very nice article, etva! The pictures are interesting and the information on Jamestown is great. My father's family is from Virginia. I spent a lot of time with relatives in Roanoke as a child but we never really went sightseeing anywhere. I'm looking forward to the rest of your series.

  • 5 votes
Reply#13 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:33 AM EST
etva

Thanks Holly! I don't get down to Roanoke very often, but they have some beautiful scenery.

  • 5 votes
#13.1 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:36 AM EST
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rottlady

Very interesting Etva! You've done a really nice job on this and I will be looking forward to reading more of this series.

I've clipped this to Vine Travelogues group, in the future you should clip the others.

  • 5 votes
Reply#14 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:13 AM EST
etva

Thank you Rottlady. I just realized that I'm not a member of any travel groups - LOL. I'll go pop off a request:)

  • 4 votes
#14.1 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:39 AM EST
rottlady

You've been accepted!

  • 6 votes
#14.2 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:57 AM EST
Ben Josephs

... and also, these kinds of articles belong in Citizen Photojournalism, too. Sending invite!

  • 6 votes
#14.3 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:14 AM EST
etva

Thanks Ben - accepted:)

  • 4 votes
#14.4 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:26 AM EST
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js-445607

Stunning history romp. Thanks etva!

  • 6 votes
Reply#15 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:27 PM EST
etva

You are quite welcome JS:)

  • 5 votes
#15.1 - Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:36 PM EST
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TR-421173

Awesome pics, thanks for the memories, haven't been there since I was a kid.

  • 4 votes
Reply#16 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:53 PM EST
etva

Thanks TR

  • 3 votes
#16.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:36 PM EST
TR-421173

Thank you, look forward to when I can take wife to Virgina (her first trip there) & also get to visit some family I have there (& in WV) again.

  • 4 votes
#16.2 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:41 PM EST
etva

Give me a shout when you're going to be in the area. Perhaps we can connect for dinner.

  • 3 votes
#16.3 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:43 PM EST
TR-421173

Will do. :)

  • 4 votes
#16.4 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:51 PM EST
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