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1) Windy Sunset © 2011 by etva
2) Before the Fire © 2011 by etva
3) Sunset Canvas per Mal's Suggestion © 2011 by etva
4) Layers © 2011 by etva
5) Blowing Clouds © 2011 by etva
6) View from the Field © 2011 by etva
7) Smoky Skies © 2011 by etva
8) Firebirds © 2011 by etva
9) Night Blows In © 2011 by etva
In last night's virtual vine meet, we discussed (and practised) noise reduction in photos. I fully intended to edit these and reduce the noise, but alas, I failed. I couldn't get any noise reduction in PSE, and I have no idea why. Thus, I'm hoping we can address the issue again in a future meet, so I can figure out how to make the tool work in PSE:)
#1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:47 AM ESTNoise? The only noise I could detect was the dust on my screen. Nothing there that needs fixing and you know the saying - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
2 cents coming up :o) NR is kind of a personal thing, there is a give and take to it. If a big open sky appears blotchy a little NR will blend that smooth, but on the other hand like your pictures above, too much NR and you will loose the detail in the smallest twigs on the trees. If I use NR, I keep my eye on the fine detail I want to keep and use that as a judge on what is too much.
Where noise really starts to show up is in enlargements and tends to disappear in reductions.
Those are beautiful pictures Etva :o)
That would be an excellent place to experiment with it. I saw the comment suggesting the toggling the preview button on and off to show the change, that is a great way to see the amount of change quickly, it really makes the change apparent.
Some thing that happens to me sometimes is that I will start to make changes and nothing happens, I then find out that I did not have the preview engaged or on. Do that enough times and you learn to check that first. :o)
I just keep saying, These buttons are my friends over and over lol Using and experimenting is really necessary just to become familiar with any software. With images part of that is learning what you are looking at, in order to determine how to correct it. It is a process that gets easier the more you do, but you never stop learning.
There are a number ways to reduce noise, but, depending on a number of factors ... ISO/ASA and long exposures being the biggest noise contributors, not all noise reductions yield clean finished images.
Often the noise is most prominent in the darkest areas of an image; when that's the case, select a black area with the magic wand tool and increase the contrast or darken the shadows ... that will sometimes leave a clean, deep black result without degrading the colors.
Try it ... it may not be a perfect solution, but it might make a difference.
I love the photos Etva. I enjoy #9.. the cloud looks like a smoke helicopter with the landing skids (on the left bottom). Awesome! :)
#2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 12:12 PM ESTOMGoodness Etva.... If I did know, I must have forgotten. I'm torn between the "evil grin" to feeling bad. Walks away with confused feelings. :)
Hahahahahaha!!!! Pushing hair back, lifting the girls back in place and walks off with an *evil grin*. :)
LMAO!!!! You got me with that one.*Dammit you didn't have to throw it so hard* But, remember the "Snowball War" and who is bring the lunch truck. Mmmm-Hmmmm!!!
What are you doing girl???!!! Do not attack nuetralites!! Will you at least follow this "one stinkin' rule??!!"
So when we do something "evil" we can just use the excuse of it being the "Neale Effect". I like it. :)
Great set of Photos, #5 should be framed.
The Noise Reduction would not work or you could not find the tool?
#3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 12:40 PM ESTOk, I have a copy of PS9 still installed, I'm going to try it as well and see what happens.
Ok, the adjustments for Noise Reduction in PS9 are working but the changes are very subtle to see. In Paintshop the range scale is from 1 to 100, the PS9 range is from 1 to 10. I had to push the slider all the way to 10 to see any difference in Sky Areas but the changes to water areas were too much.
Look for a Preview button in the NR box and click it and unclick it after making adjustments and you will be able to see a before and after.
Not really I just picked one of my photos I knew had noise and zoomed in on those areas to compare. And as I said the effects in PS9 subtle compared to Paintshop, except in the water areas. In the water I did not like how it rendered it there.
#5 is my favorite as well. I have not worked with noise reduction so I don't know a lot about it. But the photos speak for themselves!
#8 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM ESTOh etva, I told you last night these are incredible! They remind me of Tara burning in Gone With The Wind. That brilliant sky. And I really like the first one; I have tried to catch trees to show the wind and I believe you did it there! All fantastic! (noise and all:)
#9 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 4:27 PM ESTGorgeous colors etva, you've captured the show of the yearly 'November sky'. I especially like the way you composed 4, 5 & 8. Strong.
#11 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 2:11 PM ESTI like the simple, graphic and back-lit composition of the trees and ridge-tops...and of course the small and subtle flight of birds. That adds a lot, but you have to look for it. Your eyes can't be all that bad if you noticed the birds etva. Were any of these cropped?
...I meant to crop them, really I did, but I was running late...
Heh... know that feeling far too well:-)
... I know how to crop now, which is a relatively new skill for me...
Coolness. Glad to hear of your growing skills. In the ancient days of yore, when Dubbya was a young and 'purist' camera-punk, he disbelieved in cropping and printed all his photos full-frame. It's a good exercise, forcing a person to really work the shot, and not rely on cropping, [which can reduce the quality of the photo if you go too far with it]. But eventually Dub realized that when used judiciously, cropping was a pretty darned important part of the skill-set of any photographer and he'd better get with the program and stop throwing out salvageable photos:-) He now crops with wild abandon.
these photos are fine as they are presently , areas of concern will arise if you enlarge them or play to far with gamma adjustments in certain programs.Great settings, also if I am right more noise would appear with a greater Iso . This I would review and also it's relationship with shutter speed.Love the pics.
#12 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 7:26 PM ESTI don't know about noise reduction, but I like the pics. It's a painted sky.
#13 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 8:02 PM EST((( WOW ))) Beautiful pictures Etva. Love the beautiful shades of crimson in the sky! Nature at her best!
#14 - Sun Dec 4, 2011 12:15 AM ESTIs it something that we are constantly surrounded by the beauties of nature and the creations of a Power far greater than us, , if only we take the slightest moment to capture them.This is partially why I love photography.
Sorry that I'm late to the party...These photos are brilliant etva..The first one is inspiring.
Thanks for the great post.
#15 - Sun Dec 4, 2011 9:28 AM ESTYou bring tears to my eyes and a smile to my face. My favorite from this group is "Wendy Sunset." Many years ago prior to Arizona being called "the Grand Canyon State," Arizona was noted as "the Sunset State."
Great shots, all of them.
#17 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:49 PM ESTIt must have been. You did an outstanding job of capturing it! A person can see and feel that wind a blowing!
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